Depression Recovery

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>> Thanks.  I am not Yoda–I try.  Yoda says do or do not–there is no >Yoda often walks around saying "what the hell am I, anyway?"

LOL–Q you just quacked me up.  BTW–tried to email you when you posted your addy–but it came back.  What I wanted is any gossip, news, etc about Sydney/Olympics next summer.  My parents are going. Oh and local web sites would be great. I had to go to an Australian server to get local news when the ski resort slid down the mountain.  Two very close friends of the family died in their sleep.  But, that was a different ISP–so I need to reinvent the wheel this time. Thanks for the laugh, Nancy To respond via email, delete "nospam" from my address. Please visit the new moderated recovery group at alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery.info Also, check out the guafenisin group at alt.med.fibromyalgia.guaifenesin Please visit the new group, alt.talk.grandparents.

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> LOL–Q you just quacked me up.  BTW–tried to email you when you > posted your addy–but it came back.  What I wanted is any gossip,

If it did, you must have spelled it wrong (you’d be surprised by the number of people who cannot spell something that is posted right up on the screen in front of them). If you want information about our Olympics, start with the fact that our hospitals cannot care for anyone like me now because they’ve had all the funding sucked out of them to pay for the Olympics. Fucking arsehole government is happy to turn my life upside down for an Olympics while they constantly vote to give themselves payrises. Australia is a wart on the arse of the world. I can’t wait for the opportunity to blow it to pieces. — –Qliphoth Evilbastard * Listowner, Esoteric-Emotions (http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/esoteric-emotions) "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent…" (Qui-Gon Jinn)

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Thanks.  I am not Yoda–I try.  Yoda says do or do not–there is no try–or something like that.  In this case–his words do not apply. Nancy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hi Nancy, >Thank you so much for your post. It surely helped me and had to have >had a positive effect on many here. >Love, >Lynda >I sure liked Tristana’s post.  Depression is a much more serious > problem for me than mania or hypomania. > I dont think I deal with it well at all.  But I try. >snipped…

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> Thanks.  I am not Yoda–I try.  Yoda says do or do not–there is no

Yoda often walks around saying "what the hell am I, anyway?" — –Qliphoth Evilbastard * Listowner, Esoteric-Emotions (http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/esoteric-emotions) "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent…" (Qui-Gon Jinn)

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> Q would be used to billy tea; not your sooky Earl Grey.

There are two kinds of citizenry in Australia. Those who live in major cities such as Parramatta like I do, who practically get everything they want even if it is at a rip-off price thanks to the transnational corporations that own 90% of our country’s economy. The other kind are those who live out in the middle of nowhere and are slowly starving to death because our own government is constantly knifing them in the back. Just for general interest, I do not drink tea or coffee much at all. And on the rare occasion when I do drink tea, it is tea that is, like everything else here, imported from overseas. — –Qliphoth Evilbastard * Listowner, Esoteric-Emotions (http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/esoteric-emotions) "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent…" (Qui-Gon Jinn)

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It works both ways Robert… (you WERE talking about me, weren’t you?) Linda – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I think it would be a good idea for people to post their coping >mechanisms here. I don’t see enough of that either. > Hi, > Find someone to talk too through a local support group or talk to a > close friend. I am very lucky in that I have found a member of this > group who I consider my best friend, she is always there for me and is > very patient with me. We support each other when were down or > overwhelmed. She has helped me in so many ways. I know that I would be > in bad shape without her. > Web Page at: http://www.robertpo.com

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Hi Nancy, Thank you so much for your post. It surely helped me and had to have had a positive effect on many here. Love, Lynda >I sure liked Tristana’s post.  Depression is a much more serious > problem for me than mania or hypomania. > I dont think I deal with it well at all.  But I try.

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When I am feeling depressed these are the things I do to try to lift myself out of it. -listen to music, I too, have a soundtrack for my life and I love music -take a hot bubble bath and light candles -light all of the candles in my bedroom and read a romance novel -write poems or write in my journal -watch one of my favorite movies -call a girlfriend -do something that makes me feel good about myself (something for someone else, or read one of my self help books – makes me feel good cause I know I am doing something positive to help myself) -go shopping (bad if I don’t have money) -spend time playing with my hair or makeup, looking for a new look -and last but not least, read my favorite ng with all of the cool people that support me!  :-) ps – i never watch the news because off of the negativity depresses me. -jh — *moto* – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >etched permanently in the ether: >>I, for two, want to hear more about depression (stories), and thoughts on >>management of it… >I sure liked Tristana’s post.  Depression is a much more serious >problem for me than mania or hypomania. >I dont think I deal with it well at all.  But I try. >I strive for a healthy life style first–good food, good vitamins and >excercise to tolerance.  I know when I do not excercise, the >depressions, mania and pain are always worse.  I take my meds and see >my drs. >Sometimes I write what I’m feeling and what has made me depressed. I >usually bring in my ramblings to my therapist or email them to him. >But sometimes I just get depressed for no reason–then I usually cry >and cry and cry and cry. >Music used to help–but now it must be the right kind of song–almost >anything upbeat that I can sing to helps.  I love to sing–but I am >not so good at it any more. >I try to find things that I know bring me pleasure–like growing >flowers, herbs and other eatible plants. >I play with my cats–they are so adorable. >I do something nice for someone else–that is a big uplift.  for >example, I sent a woman a new mouse for her computer so she could stay >on line on another ng.  I sent another internet friend (oops, I should >not reveal this one) some items which I could no longer use, but he >could.  I took the names and addresses of internet friends to Hawaii >and sent them all a post card–way fun.  I might make my family a >special dinner or do something nice for them.  You get the idea. >I sulk.  I sulk.  I sulk. >Every so often a funny movie or tv show will help lift my spirits.  Or >a good book can do the same. >And then there is pot–the biggest spirit lifter of all for me.  I >smoke a LOT and it helps me. I do not drink alcohol, never really >did–just don’t like it. >I try not to dwell on the negative.  (easy for her to say, you’re >thinking–and you would be right–it isnt easy–everything worth >having is worth working for).  I tend to dissociate the >negative–which is also how mistakes are made that I pay for–so this >is a tricky one for me. >Let me tell you one thing that backfired on me.  I tried to keep a >gratitude journal–did it for two months.  All I got was more and more >depressed.  All I could ever find to write in the journal were trivial >things that had no real meaning to me in life.  Or I wrote down my >cats, and my family–almost every day.  It was not just boring–it was >downright depressing. >Nancy >To respond via email, delete "Z" from my address. >Please visit the new moderated recovery group at

alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery.info – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Also, check out the guafenisin group at alt.med.fibromyalgia.guaifenesin >Please visit the new group, alt.talk.grandparents.

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Totally well said and with my feelings exactlly… These feuds and nasty remarks are enough to turn anyone away… So unnecessary…. much less uncalled for.. Unless they are looking for someone to take their personal anger out on….  I will personally be no part of it…..

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I admire you so much LilySue. I really like what you wrote here. > I wanted to comment that I have been on the newsgroup a year now, and never > have I seen as many misunderstandings and miscommunication as I am seeing >now. > There is an ebb and flow to this board, sometimes it can be informational and > supportive, sometimes it can get playful and fun, and sometimes it can get > downright nasty.  Trolls come and trolls go, but there have been some truly > wonderful people I have met on these boards too, and I wouldn’t have missed it > for the world.  And I’ve seen people go through their moods too, good people > who are suffering from a terrible disease, and Q is right, you have to accept > the whole spectrum of emotion.  Please don’t leave, Lynda, Harpyrec or anybody > who has found something good about this place.  Without good and kind people a > board such as this can’t continue to exist.  Work to make it into the caring > community that it has been before and is capable of being again.

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There IS a full blown WAR of games, which in turn eclipses the subject. I think Pathos( bruce) tries to get in every ones head with this, ‘I’m such a saint’ crap praise you. We are in this together, but we don’t deal with life the same way, nor should we. If people don’t respond to you in kind, such is life, it’s our duty to remain supportive, REGARDLESS. I, for two, want to hear more about depression (stories), and thoughts on management of it… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I am an outsider to this group and have been looking at it and posting minor >stuff for the past few weeks. I believe there are many wonderful people out >there who are just scared to post for fear they will be sucked into a >"mini-war" instead of being offered support. I for one just about stopped >last week when I started seeing these unnecessary comments. Who am I to >judge? No one. Except I know meanness and nastiness when I read it and I >think people are forgetting a key word in this newsgroup; SUPPORT. I hope >all those kind gentle souls out there who are struggling with questions and >concerns about bipolar disorder will stand up and be counted so that this >group can become a supportive online environment. I know I sure as hell >could us a group who understands what it’s like to live with this illness 24 >hours a day 7 days a week. >Please post and become a part of a supportive community. I believe we can >make this the kind of group that therapists and family members will >recommend. Let’s leave the meanness and nastiness for the rest of the world >to wade through. I’d like to laugh at this illness and store up that >laughter for those days when it’s kicking me in the ass. >Thank you.

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Q would be used to billy tea; not your sooky Earl Grey. Is – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Did you tell Q about it, yet?  Sounds just like his cup ‘o tea. >Love, >LilySue

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> Did you tell Q about it, yet?  Sounds just like his cup ‘o tea.

No need to. I haven’t got enough time for more than two newsgroups, so you’re all stuck with me for the time being. (Working as the new addition to the technical staff at a poota training company is a bitch.) — –Qliphoth Evilbastard * Listowner, Esoteric-Emotions (http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/esoteric-emotions) "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent…" (Qui-Gon Jinn)

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> no kiddin, i actuall >found this thing where everyone yells and swears at each other…people >actually enjoy asking others to flame them!!! it is a hoot!!

Did you tell Q about it, yet?  Sounds just like his cup ‘o tea. Love, LilySue

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Where is Emily Latella when she is needed????

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>to wade through. I’d like to laugh at this illness and store up that >laughter for those days when it’s kicking me in the ass. >Thank you.

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why thank you bryteyes…i wrote in the supprt flame address for the person so they can go find the proper newsgroup. no kiddin, i actuall found this thing where everyone yells and swears at each other…people actually enjoy asking others to flame them!!! it is a hoot!!  love ya, harpyrec – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Everyone’s two cents is worth at least three.  However, just to let you > know, Bruce is not Pathos. > Linda > Brite > There IS a full blown WAR of games, which in turn eclipses the subject. > I think Pathos( bruce) tries to get in every ones head with this, ‘I’m such > a saint’ crap > praise you. > We are in this together, but we don’t deal with life the same way, nor > should we. If people don’t respond to you in kind, such is life, it’s our > duty to remain supportive, REGARDLESS. > I, for two, want to hear more about depression (stories), and thoughts on > management of it… > >I am an outsider to this group and have been looking at it and posting minor > >stuff for the past few weeks. I believe there are many wonderful people out > >there who are just scared to post for fear they will be sucked into a > >"mini-war" instead of being offered support. I for one just about stopped > >last week when I started seeing these unnecessary comments. Who am I to > >judge? No one. Except I know meanness and nastiness when I read it and I > >think people are forgetting a key word in this newsgroup; SUPPORT. I hope > >all those kind gentle souls out there who are struggling with questions and > >concerns about bipolar disorder will stand up and be counted so that this > >group can become a supportive online environment. I know I sure as hell > >could us a group who understands what it’s like to live with this illness 24 > >hours a day 7 days a week. > >Please post and become a part of a supportive community. I believe we can > >make this the kind of group that therapists and family members will > >recommend. Let’s leave the meanness and nastiness for the rest of the world > >to wade through. I’d like to laugh at this illness and store up that > >laughter for those days when it’s kicking me in the ass. > >Thank you.

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Everyone’s two cents is worth at least three.  However, just to let you know, Bruce is not Pathos. Linda Brite – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > There IS a full blown WAR of games, which in turn eclipses the subject. > I think Pathos( bruce) tries to get in every ones head with this, ‘I’m such > a saint’ crap > praise you. > We are in this together, but we don’t deal with life the same way, nor > should we. If people don’t respond to you in kind, such is life, it’s our > duty to remain supportive, REGARDLESS. > I, for two, want to hear more about depression (stories), and thoughts on > management of it… >I am an outsider to this group and have been looking at it and posting minor >stuff for the past few weeks. I believe there are many wonderful people out >there who are just scared to post for fear they will be sucked into a >"mini-war" instead of being offered support. I for one just about stopped >last week when I started seeing these unnecessary comments. Who am I to >judge? No one. Except I know meanness and nastiness when I read it and I >think people are forgetting a key word in this newsgroup; SUPPORT. I hope >all those kind gentle souls out there who are struggling with questions and >concerns about bipolar disorder will stand up and be counted so that this >group can become a supportive online environment. I know I sure as hell >could us a group who understands what it’s like to live with this illness 24 >hours a day 7 days a week. >Please post and become a part of a supportive community. I believe we can >make this the kind of group that therapists and family members will >recommend. Let’s leave the meanness and nastiness for the rest of the world >to wade through. I’d like to laugh at this illness and store up that >laughter for those days when it’s kicking me in the ass. >Thank you.

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well said. same goes for me. — Of course I don’t look busy.. I did it right the first time.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am an outsider to this group and have been looking at it and posting minor > stuff for the past few weeks. I believe there are many wonderful people out > there who are just scared to post for fear they will be sucked into a > "mini-war" instead of being offered support. I for one just about stopped > last week when I started seeing these unnecessary comments. Who am I to > judge? No one. Except I know meanness and nastiness when I read it and I > think people are forgetting a key word in this newsgroup; SUPPORT. I hope > all those kind gentle souls out there who are struggling with questions and > concerns about bipolar disorder will stand up and be counted so that this > group can become a supportive online environment. I know I sure as hell > could us a group who understands what it’s like to live with this illness 24 > hours a day 7 days a week. > Please post and become a part of a supportive community. I believe we can > make this the kind of group that therapists and family members will > recommend. Let’s leave the meanness and nastiness for the rest of the world > to wade through. I’d like to laugh at this illness and store up that > laughter for those days when it’s kicking me in the ass. > Thank you.

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I am an outsider to this group and have been looking at it and posting minor stuff for the past few weeks. I believe there are many wonderful people out there who are just scared to post for fear they will be sucked into a "mini-war" instead of being offered support. I for one just about stopped last week when I started seeing these unnecessary comments. Who am I to judge? No one. Except I know meanness and nastiness when I read it and I think people are forgetting a key word in this newsgroup; SUPPORT. I hope all those kind gentle souls out there who are struggling with questions and concerns about bipolar disorder will stand up and be counted so that this group can become a supportive online environment. I know I sure as hell could us a group who understands what it’s like to live with this illness 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Please post and become a part of a supportive community. I believe we can make this the kind of group that therapists and family members will recommend. Let’s leave the meanness and nastiness for the rest of the world to wade through. I’d like to laugh at this illness and store up that laughter for those days when it’s kicking me in the ass. Thank you.

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