Depression Recovery

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Hey, where’s Ed? Anyone know? Freep

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Probably floating past an oil platform in the Gulf about now… Seriously though, are you OK Ellie? Chuck

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Well, unless I missed it, I don’t think he has posted since the water started running. Anyone know? Freep

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Probably floating past an oil platform in the Gulf about now… > Seriously though, are you OK Ellie? > Chuck

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> Well, unless I missed it, I don’t think he has posted since the water > started running. Anyone know? > Freep > Probably floating past an oil platform in the Gulf about now… > Seriously though, are you OK Ellie? > Chuck

Haven’t heard from him/seen him around. Not sure where his home is, but his shop -has- to be under water as it’s located right in the middle of the 10/610 beltway. A phone call returns "all ckts. are busy". What a mess & a shame! bk

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well, unless I missed it, I don’t think he has posted since the water > started running. Anyone know? > Freep > > Probably floating past an oil platform in the Gulf about now… > > Seriously though, are you OK Ellie? > > Chuck > Haven’t heard from him/seen him > around. Not sure where his home > is, but his shop -has- to be > under water as it’s located right > in the middle of the 10/610 beltway. > A phone call returns "all ckts. are busy". > What a mess & a shame! > bk

"Prediction: one day Wilbur you are gonna piss off someone more pissed than EP who may just want to bomb you and your shop. And when it happens, I will have a hard time trying to stop laughing."                  - Ed Blum, 10/07/02 – Karma’s a bitch, ain’t it?  Am I permitted a smirk? Lord Valve American

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Had he mentioned to anyone that he was heading for the hills ahead of the storm, at least? Or do we think he went down with the ship? Lars

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> Karma’s a bitch, ain’t it?

It’s not Karma, it’s a hurricane. Karma: n : (Hinduism and Buddhism) the effects of a person’s actions that determine his destiny in his next incarnation Hurricane: n : A severe tropical cyclone originating in the equatorial regions of the Atlantic Ocean or Caribbean Sea or eastern regions of the Pacific Ocean, traveling north, northwest, or northeast from its point of origin, and usually involving heavy rains. See? >Am I permitted a smirk?

Sure. Best time to activate smirk muscles would be a few seconds after he shows up, safe. bk

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> Best time to activate > smirk muscles would be a few > seconds after he shows up, safe.

What if he doesn’t? Lars

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> Hey, where’s Ed? Anyone know? > Freep

I just heard a report live from N’awlins… The French Quarter is apparently built on the highest ground around… no pun intended… so it avoided the flooding. Many of the bars did not close at all during the storm… and plenty of patrons were observed outside with cocktails in hand, before, during, and after the storm. The report said one bar, with plywood coverings its windows, had painted a slogan on the plywood….  "We will not die sober"…. My guess is Elmis is/was there. Anyone truly interested can do a little research on the Net, find maps, find his shop on the map, and look at the "flood maps", etc. to see if his shop got hit. With power out for up to a month or more, we may not hear from Ed for a while.  If so, enjoy it while you can. Also, if you’re inclined to feel sorry for Blumby, understand that he is not able to bleat, howl, and blather on the AGA in his lifelong attempt at saving "lemming drones" from big business, the Bush Admin, and LV. Blumby repeatedly claims that his rantings and filth laden posts are his "entertainment"… so he may have to entertain himself another way for awhile. For HIS sake (and the sake of people whose amps are in his shop) I hope he has insurance…  but insurance is "big business" at it’s worst, so who knows…. gtski

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> Had he mentioned to anyone that he was heading for the hills ahead of > the storm, at least? Or do we think he went down with the ship? > Lars

Yo…   rats NEVER go down with the ship. gtski

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<snip> > gtski

Didja ever watch Chester the terrier and Spike the bulldog? bk

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I thought the hurrican was caused by God being angry at fags, or was it cause we created idols and placed them in 7-11s?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Well, unless I missed it, I don’t think he has posted since the water > > started running. Anyone know? > > Freep > > > Probably floating past an oil platform in the Gulf about now… > > > Seriously though, are you OK Ellie? > > > Chuck > Haven’t heard from him/seen him > around. Not sure where his home > is, but his shop -has- to be > under water as it’s located right > in the middle of the 10/610 beltway. > A phone call returns "all ckts. are busy". > What a mess & a shame! > bk >"Prediction: one day Wilbur you are gonna piss off someone >more pissed than EP who may just want to bomb you and your >shop. And when it happens, I will have a hard time trying >to stop laughing." >                 – Ed Blum, 10/07/02 – >Karma’s a bitch, ain’t it?  Am I permitted a smirk? >Lord Valve >American

Yep, you got an honest smirk. I hope the decent people over at Peavey are okay. Anybody got word on how they’re doing? Ron Yeah, that Ron.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> > Well, unless I missed it, I don’t think he has posted since the water >> > started running. Anyone know? >> > Freep >> > > Probably floating past an oil platform in the Gulf about now… >> > > Seriously though, are you OK Ellie? >> > > Chuck >> Haven’t heard from him/seen him >> around. Not sure where his home >> is, but his shop -has- to be >> under water as it’s located right >> in the middle of the 10/610 beltway. >> A phone call returns "all ckts. are busy". >> What a mess & a shame! >> bk >"Prediction: one day Wilbur you are gonna piss off someone >more pissed than EP who may just want to bomb you and your >shop. And when it happens, I will have a hard time trying >to stop laughing." >                 – Ed Blum, 10/07/02 – >Karma’s a bitch, ain’t it?  Am I permitted a smirk? >Lord Valve >American >Yep, you got an honest smirk. >I hope the decent people over at Peavey are okay. Anybody got word on how >they’re doing? >Ron >Yeah, that Ron.

RonSonic!   Long time. I didn’t realize that Peavey was in that area at all. I would assume that Peavey wouldn’t be foolish enough to build anything on low ground, so I somehow doubt that they got flooded out. Although, I wouldn’t bet my life on that. Pete — I saved your mechanical man from certain damnation. For his frail, electronic eyes had gazed upon the impenetrable! He was an unwilling beholder to the impossible!  –Dr. Orpheus

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>RonSonic!   >Long time.

Yes, too long. Hi Ron!! >I didn’t realize that Peavey was in that area at all. >I would assume that Peavey wouldn’t be foolish enough to build >anything on low ground, so I somehow doubt that they got flooded out.

Isn’t the whole of Mississippi built on low ground? -DC

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> I thought the hurrican was caused by God being angry at fags

Well, N.O. *is* unquestionably the Gomorrah of the USA; now, if our undisputed Sodom, San Francisco, *also* goes away somehow this week, well… I’m not predicting it, mind; it’s just that, well, if people are going to go bringing the Wrath of God into the discussion… Lars

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Shepard Smith on Fox News, who yesterday was overly optimistic from his reports in the French Quarter, appears to be the first on the news networks to actually get it: IT’S OVER FOR NEW ORLEANS. Please donate. Smith said martial law has been declared, and all journalists have been ordered out of the city (no other confirmation on expulsion of journalists, but authorities are likely too busy to arrest them yet anyway). The situation is getting exponentially worse, there are no resources, it is only going to become more and more "impossible to sustain life" in New Orleans. There are people dying there right now, trapped by the rising floodwaters — up to a total of approximately 97,000 people, according to the mayor’s own (obviously rough) estimate. The worst-case scenario is unfolding, and New Orleans will be uninhabitable for the foreseeable future. MeanBoneII’s diary :: :: and Plaquemines Parish are under martial law and the floodwaters are expected to rise to lake level. UPDATE 2: The mayor has now ordered an emergency evacuation of the entire city. Important to note: Mayor Nagin estimated that about 80% of the city’s 485,000 people evacuated before the storm. That has to be a very rough estimate and HOPEFULLY VERY LOW. If about 20% of the residents are still in the city, that’s approximately 97,000 people. Up to 20,000 (see Update 6) or so are at the Superdome. That could leave about 77,000 trapped in homes rapidly flooding with toxic water, with no food or water or way to get out. UPDATE 3: Bush is finally canceling his vacation and speeches in front of hand-picked audiences and returning to Washington as the enormity of this disaster becomes clear. Somebody apparently told him it’s time to look like he’s in charge again. UPDATE 4: Conditions at the Superdome are drastically deteriorating. Local reporter on scene tells CNN a man intentionally jumped to his death from the second level balcony in the dome. Water is rising around the dome, as victims with serious injuries are brought to the dome where they could soon be trapped. UPDATE 5: There are numerous reports of rampant "looting" in the city, but given the extreme life-or-death nature of these conditions, the vast majority of the thousands still in New Orleans are certainly just desperately grabbing any food, water and supplies they can get to stay alive. UPDATE 6: Jeanne Meserve on CNN reports it is now estimated 15,000-20,000 people are at the Superdome. Rescuers are bringing victims to the dome, which is still above but surrounded by rising water. Hopefully the mayor was way off on his guess that nearly 100,000 people were in New Orleans when the storm hit yesterday. FINAL UPDATE (diary is overbloated): WWLTV is reporting that Jefferson Parish President says residents will probably be allowed back in town in a week, with identification only, but only to get essentials and clothing. They will then be asked to leave and not come back for one month. I’d guess that the word "probably" is being used loosely and "asked" really means "ordered." Looks like wishful thinking. Please donate for those victims who have lost everything but their lives. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I thought the hurrican was caused by God being angry at fags > Well, N.O. *is* unquestionably the Gomorrah of the USA; now, if our > undisputed Sodom, San Francisco, *also* goes away somehow this week, > well… > I’m not predicting it, mind; it’s just that, well, if people are going > to go bringing the Wrath of God into the discussion… > Lars

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>From Steve Gregory at the Weather Underground:

40,000-50,000; people in the superdome, including seriously injured people, and evacuees from the Hospitals. There are no running water or sewage facilities–and no power. Temperatures are in the 90’s within the building. One man just committed suicide by jumping. ‘Unrest’ is growing within the superdome–and there are now military as well civilian police on the scene. There are now several major fires in view of city. There is evidently a fair amount of oil and gas floating on the flood waters. Water is still rising and the Mayor is just now being evacuated by helicopter as City hall is now surrounded. This is turning into a ’slow motion version’ of the worst case scenario for New Orleans. Untold numbers of dead – likely in the hundreds and possibly near 1,000 or more. LOCAL UPDATES (Text only) & LIVE STREAMING VIDEO Better Streaming Video. (IE-PC only HT: Pandora in comments) DarkSyde’s diary :: :: Water is still rising and the Mayor is just now being evacuated by helicopter as City hall is now surrounded by water that can only be reached by small boat, water is about 3 feet deep at the steps of City Hall.  80% of New Orleans is totally submerged now, and will likely become 100% submerged tonight. The depth of the water in the BIZ district is around 6-10 inches at this time. This is a result of 2 MAJOR BREACHES OF THE LEVEE.  The first one ,is about 400 feet long, and appears to have given way around 9PM last night.  The Corp of Engineers have now said there is also a second breach as well.  Within the hour the Pentagon will be taking over the coordination and manpower/machinery to assist in closing the 2 breaches. The COE indicates there is no other way to resolve the problem, and they will be using huge cranes, barges of sand and intend to ‘plug’ the breached area.  Until that is accomplished, News Orleans will continue to fill up with water. No time table is known on how long it will take. The COE indicated they have ‘great concern’ for the a specific pumping station – the largest in the world — and it will be eventually used to drain the water out of the city after the levee has been repaired. This is turning into a ’slow motion version’ of the worst case scenario for New Orleans.  Over 1,200 people have been rescued by 40 coast guard recovery helicopters where people are standing on roofs – since yesterday.  Untold numbers of dead – likely in the hundreds and possibly near 1,000 or more. Disease is expected to take a heavy toll within days.  This could claim thousands of lives.  The key seemingly is to somehow to evacuate everyone from the city.  Whether this can be done I have no clue. ELSEWHERE: Video  from the air just now showed the complete devastation of the coastal area from Mobile west to Gulfport.  An oil platform (LARGE) was brought across D auphin island and dumped to the north of the island just south of that mouth of Mobile Bay. TROPICS: A strong wave -0 that briefly was classified as a Tropical depression, is drifting WNW, and showing no sign or organizing. However, the global models are indicating that conditions will become more conducive for development of this system, located about 1500 miles east of the Lesser Antilles. Steve didn’t come right out and say it at the end there. But his concern is that another storm, even a moderate thundershower, would screw up the levies more at this point. A major tropical depression hitting the area now would kill a ton of people.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->RonSonic!   >Long time. >Yes, too long. Hi Ron!! >I didn’t realize that Peavey was in that area at all. >I would assume that Peavey wouldn’t be foolish enough to build >anything on low ground, so I somehow doubt that they got flooded out. >Isn’t the whole of Mississippi built on low ground? >-DC

I’ve never visited New Orleans, but apparently the French settled on higher land.  Which you logically do when you’re dealing with a river, especially one that size. I’m sure that it’s much flatter land in Loisanna, but farther up north here, many of the towns bordering along the river are *way* above sea level.  So the Missisippi itself is low, but not everything near it is. I’m sure that — I saved your mechanical man from certain damnation. For his frail, electronic eyes had gazed upon the impenetrable! He was an unwilling beholder to the impossible!  –Dr. Orpheus

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> Many of the bars did not close at all during the storm… and plenty > of patrons were observed outside with cocktails in hand, before, > during, and after the storm. The report said one bar, with plywood > coverings its windows, had painted a slogan on the plywood….  "We > will not die sober"…. > My guess is Elmis is/was there.

If he was, he’s stranded there now, and with the levee broke (cue Led Zeppelin) the FQ is under water half way up the buildings, too. Actually, it might be worse this way, once the mosquitoes and so on get up to speed the next coupla days. Myself, I’d rather drown, than die of cholera. Do you think that if he got out ahead of the posse, he’d have written in from wherever he is by now? He is an idiot, but he’s OUR idiot — sort of a mascot. And if he doesn’t make it out, Zootwoman might decide that SHE’S the village idiot now. Lars

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>RonSonic!   >>Long time. >Yes, too long. Hi Ron!! >>I didn’t realize that Peavey was in that area at all. >>I would assume that Peavey wouldn’t be foolish enough to build >>anything on low ground, so I somehow doubt that they got flooded out. >Isn’t the whole of Mississippi built on low ground? >-DC >I’ve never visited New Orleans, but apparently the French settled on >higher land.  Which you logically do when you’re dealing with a river, >especially one that size. >I’m sure that it’s much flatter land in Loisanna, but farther up north >here, many of the towns bordering along the river are *way* above sea >level.  So the Missisippi itself is low, but not everything near it >is. >I’m sure that

Damn shortcut key sent that before I finished! I’m sure that New Orleans was settled originally for trade purposes along the big river, and that the people who expanded the area chose their land less carefully. Pete — I saved your mechanical man from certain damnation. For his frail, electronic eyes had gazed upon the impenetrable! He was an unwilling beholder to the impossible!  –Dr. Orpheus

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Thousands of Hurricane Katrina refugees in New Orleans’ 10 shelters must be evacuated, given the deteriorating situation, says Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco. "The situation is untenable,” Blanco said at a news conference on Tuesday. "It’s just heartbreaking.” The storm’s devastating impact on New Orleans is worsening as floodwater from breakdowns in the levee system steadily fills the city’s streets. Blanco said the power could be out for a long time, and with the break of a major water main, no drinkable water is available. A historical marina in the city was in flames, with no crews available to extinguish the blaze, as officials worked feverishly to search for residents who waited to be rescued. New Orleans had appeared to dodge a catastrophe on Monday despite forecasters’ predictions that the city, which lies mostly below sea level, would be overwhelmed by Katrina. But by Tuesday, conditions began to deteriorate when the water began to steadily rise. Water lapped at the edge of the city’s historic French Quarter after failed pumps and levees sent water from nearby Lake Pontchartrain coursing through the streets. "It’s a very slow rise, and it will remain so until we plug that breach. I think we can get it stabilized in a few hours," Terry Ebbert, New Orleans’ homeland security chief told The Associated Press. Officials are planning to use helicopters to drop sandbags on the breach to stop the flow of water, which would normally have been evacuated by a network of pumps. The city of 480,000 was mostly evacuated over the weekend as Katrina closed in, but some refused to leave — or else they were too poor or sick to go on their own. The U.S. Coast Guard has dispatched helicopters to pluck residents from the roofs of their homes where they sought refuge. Boats are also being used. An estimated 40,000 homes in St. Bernard Parish, just east of New Orleans, are submerged. In many instances, people had climbed into their attics to escape rising floodwaters. In those cases, either residents, police or the U.S. Coast Guard were forced to cut holes in their roofs to allow escape. There were stories of some people blasting exit holes in their roofs with shotguns. While bodies were seen floating in the streets, no deaths have officially been confirmed yet. Mayor Ray Nagin said 80 per cent of the city was underwater, and in some places, the water was nearly seven metres deep. Tulane University Medical Center Vice President Karen Troyer-Caraway told CNN earlier Tuesday that officials were considering evacuating its 1,000 patients because the downtown hospital was surrounded by 6 feet of water. "The water is rising so fast I cannot begin to describe how quickly it’s rising," she said. Looting breaks out Meanwhile, looting broke out in New Orleans’ Canal Street, the main thoroughfare in the central business district, which was being described as a literal canal this afternoon. Looters waded through hip-deep water and cleaned out abandoned clothing and jewellery stores, sometimes in full view of passing police officers. At a Walgreen’s drug store in the French Quarter, people were seen running out with baskets and coolers brimming with soft drinks, chips and diapers. The crowd scattered when a young boy noticed police and screamed: "86! 86!" — the radio code for police. One man who had an estimated 10 pairs of jeans in his arms was asked if he was trying to save items from his store. "No," the man shouted, "that’s EVERYBODY’S store." Another woman dismissed the suggestion that she and her husband were stealing from a Winn-Dixie supermarket as she left with a plastic bag filled with items. "It’s about survival right now," she told AP. "We got to feed our children. I’ve got eight grandchildren to feed." Residents weren’t the only people raiding abandoned stores. Two police officers stood guard outside a drug store on Canal Street as Ritz-Carlton Hotel employees packed large laundry bins full of medication, snack foods and bottled water. "This is for the sick," Officer Jeff Jacob said. "We can commandeer whatever we see fit, whatever is necessary to maintain law."

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> Damn shortcut key sent that before I finished!

That happened to me once, and the dumb people all decided I was secretly Freep. Lars

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->RonSonic!   >Long time. >Yes, too long. Hi Ron!! >I didn’t realize that Peavey was in that area at all. >I would assume that Peavey wouldn’t be foolish enough to build >anything on low ground, so I somehow doubt that they got flooded out. >Isn’t the whole of Mississippi built on low ground? >-DC

It may all depend on how high the high ground they may have built on is.  I’ve heard reports of water 20′ deep in spots, and rising. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas,  Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, the rest of the  Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE)  and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Many of the bars did not close at all during the storm… and plenty > of patrons were observed outside with cocktails in hand, before, > during, and after the storm. The report said one bar, with plywood > coverings its windows, had painted a slogan on the plywood….  "We > will not die sober"…. > My guess is Elmis is/was there. >If he was, he’s stranded there now, and with the levee broke (cue Led >Zeppelin) the FQ is under water half way up the buildings, too. >Actually, it might be worse this way, once the mosquitoes and so on get >up to speed the next coupla days. Myself, I’d rather drown, than die of >cholera. >Do you think that if he got out ahead of the posse, he’d have written >in from wherever he is by now? He is an idiot, but he’s OUR idiot — >sort of a mascot. And if he doesn’t make it out, Zootwoman might decide >that SHE’S the village idiot now. >Lars

Your compassion for fellow human beings is duly noted. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas,  Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, the rest of the  Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE)  and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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