Depression Recovery

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My fathers death was a result of depression.  He was old, but in good health.  And he had all his business in order, including a non-resuscitation order.  He made a family/business decision that caused a lot of uproar.  He felt the distress around him because of the decision he made and it depressed him.  He stopped wanting to do things.  An injury didn’t want to heal, he was passive with physical therapy, he lost his delight in good food.  He died of "dehydration", or old age and refusing to drink  –he was 91.  If he had been resuscitated/hospitalized he would have regained his joy in life, and lived several more good years. Christina

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> GREAT article. Had many great points in it. Im not surprised what the article > said about major depression being responsible for so many disability cases. > Wow…sounds like a disease that would really respond well to "just talk > therapy" huh? LOL Something bad enough to cause you to become disabled and not > be able to work is NOT going to respond to talk therapy. Unlike some on here > would have you believe. > I also find it interesting that the article mentioned rates of schizophrenia > are quite uniform across the world and this is probably rooted in the fact its > heavily genetic. I agree with that. In fact I think in the end, all mental > illnesses will be found to be extremely heavily genetic. I wonder if how much > beginning genetic engineering research is being done into mental illness? MY > guess is probably not too much. But I bet there is a whole lot of genetic > research going on into more generally accepted, conventional diseases. Thats my > hunch and bet about it. Maybe Im wrong…I hope I am but I bet Im right about > it. > So major depression will be the second leading cause of death by 2020 huh? And > depression is still not even considered a "real" illness yet? LOL Damn the > state of things in psychiatry is so ridiculously fucked up it makes me sick. > How can a disease like major depression cause so much disability and so many > problems as this article points out, yet not be considered to be a "real" > physical disease? Its still thought of in boogeyman, psycho-babble terms, even > by a lot of psychiatrists. Sickening. > Eric > Steroids caused my depression…prednisone should be used conservatively > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FactsAndFallaciesOfDepression > MIBS (Minimally Invasive Brain Stimulation) > http://www.musc.edu/psychiatry/fnrd/tms.htm

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> GREAT article. Had many great points in it. Im not surprised what the article > said about major depression being responsible for so many disability cases. > Wow…sounds like a disease that would really respond well to "just talk > therapy" huh? LOL Something bad enough to cause you to become disabled and not > be able to work is NOT going to respond to talk therapy. Unlike some on here > would have you believe.

Please provide some evidence of this rather then mere assertions. > I also find it interesting that the article mentioned rates of schizophrenia > are quite uniform across the world and this is probably rooted in the fact its > heavily genetic. I agree with that. In fact I think in the end, all mental > illnesses will be found to be extremely heavily genetic. I wonder if how much > beginning genetic engineering research is being done into mental illness?  MY > guess is probably not too much. But I bet there is a whole lot of genetic > research going on into more generally accepted, conventional diseases. Thats my > hunch and bet about it. Maybe Im wrong…I hope I am but I bet Im right about > it.

What of the fact that there is a better rate of recovery from schizophrenia in ‘less advanced’ places where the modern class drugs you seem so enamored of are not used? > So major depression will be the second leading cause of death by 2020 huh? And > depression is still not even considered a "real" illness yet? LOL Damn the > state of things in psychiatry is so ridiculously fucked up it makes me sick.

The study included depression catalyzed by diseases such as Alzheimer’s, and stress.  Not just depression alone, and the study is but a prediction, not fact. > How can a disease like major depression cause so much disability and so many > problems as this article points out, yet not be considered to be a "real" > physical disease?

Please tell us the problems the article pointed out, if you would. Your credibility would be better if you did not stretch facts which you have no need to stretch. > Its still thought of in boogeyman, psycho-babble terms, even > by a lot of psychiatrists. Sickening.

Just so, eric.  The holistic health care model will help to ease the difficulties caused by our unbalanced western life style in the years to come.  I think the system will slowly move back a touch toward equilibrium.  The further input of poorly understood interventions is but a mere crutch, until life style changes and more holistic practices take hold. Yes, yes there will still be lots of sheer numbers of people suffering from mental illness, but the percentage numbers will be way down. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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> Also notice that this article lumps mental illness in there with "other > neurological diseases." There shouldnt be any differentiation between mental > illness and other more generally accepted neurological illnesses. ALL serious > forms of mental illness should automatically be thought of as a neurological > illness.

who makes the call for serious illness?  It just invites more fuzzy thinking which you so oppose.  Looks like we might need to put all mental illness in the same basket. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Eric > Steroids caused my depression…prednisone should be used conservatively > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FactsAndFallaciesOfDepression > MIBS (Minimally Invasive Brain Stimulation) > http://www.musc.edu/psychiatry/fnrd/tms.htm

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