Depression Recovery

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(=?ISO-8859-1?Q?caroly~vonne=AE?=) Time

>First of all, I’d

like to apologize to you Shawnee, as well as the rest >of the group. I regret

the language I used & I regret losing my >composure because I was angered at

your (Shawnee’s) behavior. >You,  Hopper, Jenwolf have not impressed me as

having whatever it is necessary >for me to place any value on your opinions

regarding dx of other posters. Gee…I guess this means we won’t be exchanging Christmas cards this year. Look, you can accept my apology or not. I have a hard time understanding your posts when you’re hot under the collar so I’m not always sure I’m understanding you. I had hoped that you & I could calm down and be civil…THAT is what I was attempting. Ball is in your court. so whatever… caroly~vonne

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First of all, I’d like to apologize to you Shawnee, as well as the rest of the group. I regret the language I used & I regret losing my composure because I was angered at your (Shawnee’s) behavior. Gemini, _I_ wrote this…… >Re: borderline…LOL. I know this is unkind >but everytime she has been told that she’s >borderline, she wigs out, denies it and >then pulls some stunt like forging a post >or accusations that are truly bizarre. That >just makes me think even more that she’s >borderline!

I can see how you might interpret this as the equivalent of bear-baiting or cruel teasing in order to provoke Shawnee. It certainly wasn’t what I meant tho. It’s more like disbelief that in her denial she justs shows more BPD traits, so how can she deny or not recognize it? I hope both of you understand that now. Linda, I’m going to give you an example of why I dislike the way Shawnee crossposts or sets people up to crosspost in a response to her posts. I found this posted by Shawnee. She posts it in such a way as to look like it originated from me. I did not write this or quote this and I’ve never seen it before the day Shawnee posted it to asdm. I’m not going to point fingers but I’d like to know fromwhence it came, Shawnee? ======= Title: Re: Re I’m so glad…… >   There is a crack dealer in the Denver area who >likes to string

young white girls out on crack then >take advantage of them. He has ruined too many lives, >and when one girl killed herself because she could > not bear the shame, he laughed.  His name is DXXX, > but goes by "D". He drives a white [deleted] and his >phone # is (XXX) XXX-[deleted.] >  If you think that what he is doing is wrong, please >call him and

express your feelings. >Jack–

***[NOTE: my question is who is Jack? Is he supposed to have written it or am I???] header for above post Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.manic ***[NOTE: she's posting this to only asdm] Followup-To: ***[NOTE: the return path is to all these other newsgroups that I have never participated in or even lurked!!!!] alt.flame.psychiatry,sci.med,alt.support.schizoaffective, alt.auto.mercedes,alt.support.depression.manic,alt.support.depression,alt.s upport.personality Organization: Altopia Corp. – Usenet Access – http://www.altopia.com Lines: 15 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: www.newsranger.com alt.support.depression.manic:23703 Shawnee, you know because I told you, that with webtv you cannot see headers. So the motivation for posting this as puportedly coming from me, was to provoke me into denying it and flaming you (Shawnee) and I wouldn’t know that  flaming her would be crossposted to all these different groups. Quite possibly the "D" person referred to above is a particpant in one of those groups. Who looks bad then? Me. Who will be blamed as being a troll? Me. Who looks like they’re just out to cause trouble? Me. Another post by you Shawnee. I haven’t quite figured this one out but it appears to have been posted in hopes of me crosspostng a response, once again to all those groups as shown in the followup line shown in the header. ======= Title: Re: Re I’m so glad……

Path: news.alt.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!paloalto-snf1.gtein et!news.gtei.net!webtv.net!not-for-mail Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQpu30O1nxXQzoU0KAPY7jccMELWQIUP38kO4W+Wq315xz9zt/nSimDv30= Content-Disposition: Inline Xref: news alt.abuse.recovery:195347 Does anyone know the webtv abuse addy..  As many people as possible should email this with full headers to webtv’s abuse addy unless someone here knows that the headers are spoofed to be from webtv. HEADER from above post Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.manic Followup-To: alt.flame.psychiatry,sci.med,alt.support.schizoaffective, alt.auto.mercedes,alt.support.depression.manic,alt.support.depression,alt.s upport.personality Organization: Altopia Corp. – Usenet Access – http://www.altopia.com Lines: 27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: www.newsranger.com alt.support.depression.manic:23704 So Gemini, I hope this explains why _I_ don’t like the way that _you_ Shawnee set it up for responses to be crossposted to hell and back. If I wanted to let these other groups know what’s going on here and invite problems (like what happened with alt.caving), I would do it myself. Now on that note, I’d like to suggest that both of us step back and look at who and where and what lines are being crossed. I took the past day or so to reflect on your posts Gemini and perhaps I found some truth to them. But you must remember that my/our toes were getting stepped on as well. I hope you both can feel better soon. And I would seriously like to know who threatened you Linda. That is not something any of us take lightly, nor do we approve of those tactics. It would help towards settling down to know just who you think "our leader" is. I haven’t a clue and I’ve not received any invitations to secret strategy meetings. I’m always left out of things </pouting> my best, carol

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