Depression Recovery

Question:

"Our job in the world is not to be loved, it is to be respected!"                       — Henry Kissenger

Response:

>"Our job in the world is not to be loved, >it is to be respected!" >                      — Henry Kissenger

That’s pretty much the way it is. It’s also our job to not elect a flag burning $5 whore who’ll turn us into a nation of wimps, and pull us out of Iraq before our job is done there. Pete — How can you doubt thousands of years of superstition? –Grim

Response:

>"Our job in the world is not to be loved, >it is to be respected!" >                      — Henry Kissenger > That’s pretty much the way it is. > It’s also our job to not elect a flag burning $5 whore who’ll turn us > into a nation of wimps, and pull us out of Iraq before our job is done > there. > Pete

Well put, Pete. Ed Cregger

Response:

it’s our job not to elect an oil slut and his pimps and johns.

Response:

Precisely, and that’s why we need to dump Bush, so the rest of the world respects us once more.

Response:

Fuck Henry Kissmyassenger!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Our job in the world is not to be loved, > it is to be respected!" >                       — Henry Kissenger

Response:

> Precisely, and that’s why we need to dump Bush, so the rest of the > world respects us once more.

What good is it to be "respected" and also hated? There is no need for us to be a frickin’ bully, but the morons who posted above you seem to confuse getting respect is by bullying. And our job is not to elect a frontman for a bunch of greedy bellicose pigs who hide behind a $5 flag made in slave labor China and need geography lessons so they won’t bomb the wrong country in their lust for the world’s oil supply while polluting OUR country with lies, toxic waste and wasted lives for their visions of granduer by cheating their way in boasting that God is on their side. Fuck ‘em! DEFEND AMERICA – DEFEAT BUSH!

Response:

> "Our job in the world is not to be loved, > it is to be respected!" >                      — Henry Kissenger

I dont know if respect is the first word that comes to mind for most non Americans when it comes to the USA. Doug

Response:

> "Our job in the world is not to be loved, > it is to be respected!" >                      — Henry Kissenger > I dont know if respect is the first word that comes to mind for most non > Americans when it comes to the USA. > Doug

I think that the kind of respect that Henry was talking about was more akin to being scared or fearing us. I agree with him. If you don’t want our troops on your soil, don’t make the US think that you are a threat to our survival/way of life. It really is simple. Some folks have cultures that are built in such a way that it would be impossible for their citizens to respect us in other terms. I don’t think that we need to force people to like us. But we do need to make it clear that we are no one to be trifled with. Stick around. You ain’t seen nuttin’ yet. Ed Cregger

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> "Our job in the world is not to be loved, >> it is to be respected!" >>                      — Henry Kissenger > I dont know if respect is the first word that comes to mind for most non > Americans when it comes to the USA. > Doug > I think that the kind of respect that Henry was talking about was more akin > to being scared or fearing us. I agree with him.

Being feared will never be the same as being respected;  demand respect with a big stick and there will always be someone looking for the bigger (or maybe better) stick to make you ‘respect’ them. > If you don’t want our troops on your soil, don’t make the US think that you > are a threat to our survival/way of life. It really is simple.

Isn’t that a little like the way the former Soviet Union thought as they were taking over most of Eastern Europe? And you know what eventually happened there. pinball man power glutton, vacuum inside his head forefinger on the button, is he blue or is he red?

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >> "Our job in the world is not to be loved, > >> it is to be respected!" > >>                      — Henry Kissenger > > I dont know if respect is the first word that comes to mind for most non > > Americans when it comes to the USA. > > Doug > I think that the kind of respect that Henry was talking about was more > akin > to being scared or fearing us. I agree with him. > Being feared will never be the same as being respected;  demand respect with > a big stick and there will always be someone looking for the bigger (or > maybe better) stick to make you ‘respect’ them. > If you don’t want our troops on your soil, don’t make the US think that > you > are a threat to our survival/way of life. It really is simple. > Isn’t that a little like the way the former Soviet Union thought as they > were taking over most of Eastern Europe? > And you know what eventually happened there.

Yeah, I do. We kicked their ass.  We’ll kick Islamo-Fascism’s ass, too, and any other ass that needs kicking. Lord Valve American

Response:

> it’s our job not to elect an oil slut and his pimps and johns.

As in the two lefty John’s that need Flushing because they are so full of shit. Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Precisely, and that’s why we need to dump Bush, so the rest of the > world respects us once more. > What good is it to be "respected" and also hated? > There is no need for us to be a frickin’ bully, > but the morons who posted above you seem > to confuse getting respect is by bullying. > And our job is not to elect a frontman for a bunch of > greedy bellicose pigs who hide behind a $5 flag made > in slave labor China and need geography lessons so > they won’t bomb the wrong country in their lust > for the world’s oil supply while polluting OUR > country with lies, toxic waste and wasted lives > for their visions of granduer by cheating their > way in boasting that God is on their side. Fuck ‘em! > DEFEND AMERICA – DEFEAT BUSH!

DEFEND AMERICA – DEFEAT *TERRORISM*, Bush kicks ass!!!!! Kerry is a Flake!!!!! He changes his mind with the wind!!!!! LOL, the freaking guy bashes Bush, more than he bashes those terrorists. Like those who killed those mothers and their children in that Russian school. Where was his Big Freaking Mouth then. <thinking> Besides, Bill and Hill were behind the Rather thing anyway. Kerry has to fall, so Hill can get in. Bill has his eyes on the UN. Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

Response:

> "Our job in the world is not to be loved, > it is to be respected!" >                      — Henry Kissenger > I dont know if respect is the first word that comes to mind for most non > Americans when it comes to the USA. > Doug

That’s because you haven’t traveled to far and distant lands and spoken to the people there…. gtski

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >> "Our job in the world is not to be loved, > >> it is to be respected!" > >>                      — Henry Kissenger > > I dont know if respect is the first word that comes to mind for most > > non > > Americans when it comes to the USA. > > Doug > I think that the kind of respect that Henry was talking about was more > akin > to being scared or fearing us. I agree with him. > Being feared will never be the same as being respected;  demand respect > with > a big stick and there will always be someone looking for the bigger (or > maybe better) stick to make you ‘respect’ them.

There will be anyway. That is human nature. Predator or prey. Those are the two choices that nature gives you. Anything else is bullshit philosophy that leads to death camps such as Aushwitz. > If you don’t want our troops on your soil, don’t make the US think that > you > are a threat to our survival/way of life. It really is simple. > Isn’t that a little like the way the former Soviet Union thought as they > were taking over most of Eastern Europe?

I would not mind seeing the West declaring the world’s oil supply too important to be subjected to the vagaries of alleged Saudi royalty or militant Islam and then occupy and shield those sites from sabotage. Why do you think we are in Iraq? It is a foothold toward protecting the oil supply. We are not their to steal their oil or their land, but to protect the distribution system from harm. A few alleged "royal" folks have their fingers firmly wrapped around our private parts. Who do you think started this depression? (It is just barely getting started)Look back to when the Saudis raised the price of oil and tripped the markets into sell-offs during the Clinton administration. This is a matter of recorded history. I’m not making this up. Look back even further and see that every other "recession" we have experienced since 1972 has been caused by these folks having a temper tantrum. It is time they were replaced with a Western friendly regime. One must care for oneself. No one else will and relying on others good intentions is idiotic. We have warned them repeatedly about financing and supporting terrorism and madrasas that preach hatred toward the West. Those warnings went unheeded. Now it is time to pay the piper. So, if we look out for ourselves, we will disintegrate like the Soviets? I don’t think so. The Soviets were defeated by their own ideology. Communism removes the incentive to work. It is a wonder that they lasted as long as they did. But you know this. We need to get hydrogen going big time and decouple ourselves from the Middle East. By not buying their oil, we also deprive them of the capital that is necessary to wage Jihad. However,, replacing petroleum with hydrogen will take time and lots of capital, all at a time when our economy is on the skids with no recovery in sight. Yes, I know, hydrogen is a transfer medium and not an energy source. But we have nearly unlimited wind power available in the midwest for producing enough clean power to liberate hydrogen and oxygen from water to fuel all of our vehicles at an acceptable cost. Even our current IC engines can be converted to burn hydrogen. We do not need to wait for fuel cell technology at all. I would much prefer that no one is ever killed in war. However, refusing to take care of your own interests will guarantee that you and your loved ones will at least suffer greatly, if not be killed. If someone has to suffer or die, I would much rather it be "them". In a perfect world, we would all take care of each other. We have a long, long way to go before something like that is possible – if ever. Ed Cregger

Response:

Oh boy, please give me a link to the conspiracy theory to which you spubscribe. There are a number of variation on the ONe World Theme. Which one is yours?

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > "Our job in the world is not to be loved, > > it is to be respected!" > >                      — Henry Kissenger > I dont know if respect is the first word that comes to mind for most > non > Americans when it comes to the USA. > Doug > That’s because you haven’t traveled to far and distant lands and > spoken to the people there…. > gtski

Well, I have.  MOST people are pretty good at distinguishing my views from those of the administration.  But I remember being in Ireland in late September 2001, where an old man kept telling me "God love you!  My whole country is behind you."  I’ve been back since, and I got none of that support.  I heard a wide variety of political voices in Morocco, but none of them seemed respectful of the U.S. Our country needs military strength – I fully believe that.  But respect has to be more than fear, because people will lash out at fear.  Israel is much stronger than Palestine, and is certainly feared there, but that doesn’t stop the terrorist attacks.  The conservatives hope (or at least claim to hope) that the pot-of-gold dream of capitalism will be enough to win people’s respect.  (And, faults and all, maybe it should.)  But it’s pretty hard for people to appreciate that when they’re scared shitless.

Response:

http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/ short version: The problem with making sausage the President’s way-other than the fact that it deceives the public, precludes a serious debate, bitterly divides the body politic when war requires unity, exposes American soldiers to greater risk, substitutes half measures for thoroughgoing efforts, and insures that no one will be held accountable for mistakes that will never be corrected-is that it doesn’t work. What determines success in this war is what happens in Iraq and how Iraqis perceive it. If U.S.A.I.D. releases a report that prettifies the truth, officials here might breathe easier for a while, but it won’t speed up the reconstruction of Iraq. Covering up failures only widens the gap in perception between Washington and Baghdad-which, in turn, makes Washington less capable of grasping the reality of Iraq and responding to it. Eventually, the failures announce themselves anyway-in a series of suicide bombings, a slow attrition of Iraqi confidence, a sudden insurrection. War, unlike budget forecasts and campaign coverage, is quite merciless with falsehood. In refusing to look at Iraq honestly, President Bush has made defeat there more likely. This failing is only the most important repetition of a recurring theme in the war against radical Islam: the distance between Bush’s soaring, often inspiring language and the insufficiency of his actions. When he speaks, as he did at the Republican Convention, about the power of freedom to change the world, he is sounding deep notes in the American political psyche. His opponent comes nowhere close to making such music. But if Iraq looks nothing like the President’s vision-if Iraq is visibly deteriorating, and no one in authority will admit it-the speeches can produce only illusion or cynicism. In what may be an extended case of overcompensation, so much of the President’s conduct in the war has become an assertion of personal will. Bush’s wartime hero, Winston Churchill, offered his countrymen nothing but blood, toil, tears, and sweat. Bush offers optimistic forecasts, permanent tax cuts, and his own stirring resolve.

Response:

The liberals in their lust for power have given the enemy the spirit to fight on. Teddy, Tom, Johnny, and the rest of them by telling the world that we are wrong and the world were lied to and the way the are bitching about it have given the enemy comfort, aide, and more importantly almost a self fullfilling prophacy about iraq trying to be another Viet-Nam. The liberals are sure trying. But we won’t let them. Regards, Spike <doesn’t have an original though snip> >http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/ >short version:

<snip>

Response:

http://www.whodies.com/dies.html http://www.whodies.com/lies_threat.html Who dies for Bush Lies?

Response:

The Bush administration, in their lust for power have been powerful warriors in the fight against freedom. W, Rummy, Ashcroft and the rest of them, by telling the world that we are wrong to question our government,  and more importantly, by attacking anyone except our most dangerous enemies, have created a self-fulfilling prophecy of a terrorist threat in Iraq. The neo-cons are sure trying. But we won’t let them.

Response: