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Donna, Im very sorry to hear about your loss. Its easy to blame yourself for the things you might have done to prevent this but that is not the case and I hope you don’t dwell there. Try to be grateful for the time you had together. johnie
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Hi Donna, Sooo sorry you have this pain in your life. It is really hard to understand the whys and where fors when something like this happens. You are prayed for and if it is Gods will, may you find peace and understanding with what has taken place. You know that you are cared for here and please email me if you just want to talk. Harv – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi Guys, > Just wanted to let you all know that if you don’t see me around for a > couple of days or so, don’t panic! I may lurk or I may not come online > at all or I may come here for support. Just really don’t know right at > the moment!!! > suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I > have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the > summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. > Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all > the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively > short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!! Anyway, the call > came and it is all I can do to see straight or think straight!!! This > is all so very hard to take in and absorb. I was the last one she had > spoken with (talked to her on friday) and new that she was quite > depressed about several things that were going on in her life at the > time. We talked for a short time and then she said she had to go. I > feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I > somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and > it is just so painful!!! > Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great > devestation to so many!!! > Thanks everyone!!! > Donna G
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Donna How terribly sad indeed. I am so sorry and you and yours are in my prayers. When a depressed person arrives at this stage, *nothing* one says really helps, so do not berate yourself and you could have done more – you COULD NOT (personal experience with a friend when in my 20’s). regards Hildagh – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi Guys, > Just wanted to let you all know that if you don’t see me around for a > couple of days or so, don’t panic! I may lurk or I may not come online > at all or I may come here for support. Just really don’t know right at > the moment!!! > suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I > have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the > summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. > Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all > the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively > short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!! Anyway, the call > came and it is all I can do to see straight or think straight!!! This > is all so very hard to take in and absorb. I was the last one she had > spoken with (talked to her on friday) and new that she was quite > depressed about several things that were going on in her life at the > time. We talked for a short time and then she said she had to go. I > feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I > somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and > it is just so painful!!! > Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great > devestation to so many!!! > Thanks everyone!!! > Donna G
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What a terrible time for you and for all of Laurie’s family! It’s so hard to understand the despair that drives a person to suicide. Will be praying for Laurie and all of her family (that includes you). Nann
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Guys, > Just wanted to let you all know that if you don’t see me around for a > couple of days or so, don’t panic! I may lurk or I may not come online > at all or I may come here for support. Just really don’t know right at > the moment!!! > suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I > have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the > summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. > Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all > the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively > short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!! Anyway, the call > came and it is all I can do to see straight or think straight!!! This > is all so very hard to take in and absorb. I was the last one she had > spoken with (talked to her on friday) and new that she was quite > depressed about several things that were going on in her life at the > time. We talked for a short time and then she said she had to go. I > feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I > somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and > it is just so painful!!!
What a painful experience. There have been several suicides in my family and I have learned you can’t beat yourself up over the choices of others. I am sure she appreciated your friendship and love, and she will always be with you in spirit. (((Donna))) — MZ — website: http://members.home.net/mzuschlag
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Donna, You and your sister are in my heart and prayers. Melinda
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Dear Gentle Donna, So I’m asking a favor. I’m asking you to please be extra kind and caring to yourself at this time of shock and loss. Please treat you like I would treat you were I there to support you. You’re loved and respected….now’s a very good time to draw on that. Come back as soon as you need to, dear Donna. Caring Hugs from Rosie — "If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself." — Meat Loaf, Bat Outta Hell II
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Guys, > Just wanted to let you all know that if you don’t see me around for a > couple of days or so, don’t panic! I may lurk or I may not come online > at all or I may come here for support. Just really don’t know right at > the moment!!! > suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I > have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the > summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. > Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all > the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively > short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!! Anyway, the call > came and it is all I can do to see straight or think straight!!! This > is all so very hard to take in and absorb. I was the last one she had > spoken with (talked to her on friday) and new that she was quite > depressed about several things that were going on in her life at the > time. We talked for a short time and then she said she had to go. I > feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I > somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and > it is just so painful!!! > Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great > devestation to so many!!! > Thanks everyone!!! > Donna G
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> Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great > devestation to so many!!! > Thanks everyone!!! > Donna G
Donna, I am so sorry! I hope you find the strength to forgive both your sister nd yourself! — "There are some people that if they don’t know, you can’t tell ‘em." — Louis Armstrong http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Nook/9300
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I’m so sorry. Wish I knew what to say to make things easier for you. But, only time will do that. Please know that you are in my heart and prayers. Be well, Patty 
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in there, honey. And come back to us when you feel able. DeeTee – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi Guys, > Just wanted to let you all know that if you don’t see me around for a > couple of days or so, don’t panic! I may lurk or I may not come online > at all or I may come here for support. Just really don’t know right at > the moment!!! > suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I > have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the > summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. > Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all > the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively > short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!! Anyway, the call > came and it is all I can do to see straight or think straight!!! This > is all so very hard to take in and absorb. I was the last one she had > spoken with (talked to her on friday) and new that she was quite > depressed about several things that were going on in her life at the > time. We talked for a short time and then she said she had to go. I > feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I > somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and > it is just so painful!!! > Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great > devestation to so many!!! > Thanks everyone!!! > Donna G
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I’m very sorry- however do not blame yourself- rmember most depressed people do not commit suicide and those that do often don’t directly let people know what they are thinking or planning. I will pray for all of you Kate Send in the clowns I will not drag you along; I will not leave you alone; I will stand by you and have my hand there for you to hold when you need it.
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GramPaHugs, Alex, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi Guys, > Just wanted to let you all know that if you don’t see me around for a > couple of days or so, don’t panic! I may lurk or I may not come online > at all or I may come here for support. Just really don’t know right at > the moment!!! > suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I > have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the > summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. > Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all > the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively > short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!! Anyway, the call > came and it is all I can do to see straight or think straight!!! This > is all so very hard to take in and absorb. I was the last one she had > spoken with (talked to her on friday) and new that she was quite > depressed about several things that were going on in her life at the > time. We talked for a short time and then she said she had to go. I > feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I > somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and > it is just so painful!!! > Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great > devestation to so many!!! > Thanks everyone!!! > Donna G
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Rose, How perfectly said. Donna, you are in my thoughts and prayers. Tery
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Donna, I am so sorry.Please know that you are not responsible and don’t feel that you could have stopped it. Pray that you can accept it and get on with your life. You’re in my prayers. Gwen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi Guys, > Just wanted to let you all know that if you don’t see me around for a > couple of days or so, don’t panic! I may lurk or I may not come online > at all or I may come here for support. Just really don’t know right at > the moment!!! > suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I > have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the > summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. > Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all > the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively > short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!! Anyway, the call > came and it is all I can do to see straight or think straight!!! This > is all so very hard to take in and absorb. I was the last one she had > spoken with (talked to her on friday) and new that she was quite > depressed about several things that were going on in her life at the > time. We talked for a short time and then she said she had to go. I > feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I > somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and > it is just so painful!!! > Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great > devestation to so many!!! > Thanks everyone!!! > Donna G
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>suicide!!! It is so unbelievable.
Donna: Please accept my sincerest condolences on the loss of your sister. I agree with what others here have said, you can not feel guilty. By the time one plans and carried out a suicide threat there has been a long period of depression. Just know that you were there for her in her darkest hour. Rose
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Oh Donna, I am so so very sorry. I have lost MANY friends to suicide, due to the fact that I am bipolar and have been active in the depression support groups. It is devastating every time, and it is natural to question yourself. Even more than in any other death, you will be plagued by the "what could I have done differently?" bug. Please do not give in to it. Remind yourself as often as necessary that there is nothing you could have done or said once she’d made up her mind. When she called you, it was to say goodbye, not to look for help. Had she still been at the point where you could have helped in any way, she would have told you what she was planning. Donna, please feel free to contact me anytime. I have survived suicides more times than I can count. I understand, and am willing to listen. When you are ready, I also highly recommend: http://www.survivorsofsuicide.com and a couple other resources: http://www.firelily.com/support/depression/suicide.survivors.html http://lifegard.tripod.com/questions.html http://www.dugganscarlmontchapel.com/2/Family_Grief/Suicide_Survivor/… And finally, Suicide Survivor’s Bill of Rights by JoAnn C. Mecca ~I have the right to be free of guilt. ~I have the right not to reel responsible for the suicide death. ~I have the right to express my feelings and emotions, even if they do not seem acceptable, as long as they do not interfere with the rights of others. ~I have the right to have my questions answered honestly by authorities and family members. ~I have the right not to be deceived because others feel they can spare me further grief. ~I have the right to maintain a sense of hopefulness. ~I have a right to peace and dignity. ~I have the right to positive feelings about the one I lost through suicide, regardless of the events prior to or at the time of the death. ~I have the right to retain my individuality and not be judged because of the suicide death. ~I have the right to seek counseling and a support group to enable me to honestly explore my feelings to further the acceptance process. ~I have the right to reach acceptance. ~I have the right to a new beginning. ~I have the right to be. It is ok to be angry with her. In fact, it is a normal and natural and healthy part of grieving. It is also ok to smile and laugh again at some point. Allow yourself to grieve, but don’t forget to allow yourself to recover also. My email box is open, Aim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hi Guys, >Just wanted to let you all know that if you don’t see me around for a >couple of days or so, don’t panic! I may lurk or I may not come online >at all or I may come here for support. Just really don’t know right at >the moment!!! >suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I >have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the >summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. >Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all >the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively >short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!! Anyway, the call >came and it is all I can do to see straight or think straight!!! This >is all so very hard to take in and absorb. I was the last one she had >spoken with (talked to her on friday) and new that she was quite >depressed about several things that were going on in her life at the >time. We talked for a short time and then she said she had to go. I >feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I >somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and >it is just so painful!!! >Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great >devestation to so many!!! >Thanks everyone!!! >Donna G
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when you need us. The pain you must feel right now is unimaginable. Just know that we love you. Here is a big enveloping huge hug from ASA. Stay strong. Duckie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi Guys, > Just wanted to let you all know that if you don’t see me around for a > couple of days or so, don’t panic! I may lurk or I may not come online > at all or I may come here for support. Just really don’t know right at > the moment!!! > suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I > have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the > summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. > Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all > the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively > short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!! Anyway, the call > came and it is all I can do to see straight or think straight!!! This > is all so very hard to take in and absorb. I was the last one she had > spoken with (talked to her on friday) and new that she was quite > depressed about several things that were going on in her life at the > time. We talked for a short time and then she said she had to go. I > feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I > somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and > it is just so painful!!! > Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great > devestation to so many!!! > Thanks everyone!!! > Donna G
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Donna, you said you live in Ann Arbor, so I looked up a couple of resources for you. I don’t know if it is something that will help you or not, but it’s worth a try…. ANN ARBOR Suicide Loss Support Group Arbor Hospice 2366 Oak Valley Drive Ann Arbor, MI 48103 Bereavement Department 734-662-5999 ANN ARBOR Ms. Marlene McGrath MSW Survivors of Suicide University of Michigan Hospital UH9C-1950 1500 E. Medical Center Drive Ann Arbor, MI 48109-0120 734-936-4960 Survivors of Suicide (SOS) has a very good reputation. You might try contacting them. Aim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hi Guys, >Just wanted to let you all know that if you don’t see me around for a >couple of days or so, don’t panic! I may lurk or I may not come online >at all or I may come here for support. Just really don’t know right at >the moment!!! >suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I >have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the >summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. >Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all >the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively >short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!! Anyway, the call >came and it is all I can do to see straight or think straight!!! This >is all so very hard to take in and absorb. I was the last one she had >spoken with (talked to her on friday) and new that she was quite >depressed about several things that were going on in her life at the >time. We talked for a short time and then she said she had to go. I >feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I >somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and >it is just so painful!!! >Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great >devestation to so many!!! >Thanks everyone!!! >Donna G
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{{{{{Donna}}}} Prayers are on the way…Please take care of yourself during this stressful time… Marsha
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Thanks, I have saved your post to be used in the future. Harv – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Oh Donna, I am so so very sorry. > I have lost MANY friends to suicide, due to the fact that I am bipolar > and have been active in the depression support groups. It is > devastating every time, and it is natural to question yourself. Even > more than in any other death, you will be plagued by the "what could I > have done differently?" bug. Please do not give in to it. Remind > yourself as often as necessary that there is nothing you could have > done or said once she’d made up her mind. When she called you, it was > to say goodbye, not to look for help. Had she still been at the point > where you could have helped in any way, she would have told you what > she was planning. > Donna, please feel free to contact me anytime. I have survived > suicides more times than I can count. I understand, and am willing to > listen. > When you are ready, I also highly recommend: > http://www.survivorsofsuicide.com > and a couple other resources: > http://www.firelily.com/support/depression/suicide.survivors.html > http://lifegard.tripod.com/questions.html > http://www.dugganscarlmontchapel.com/2/Family_Grief/Suicide_Survivor/… > And finally, > Suicide Survivor’s Bill of Rights > by JoAnn C. Mecca > ~I have the right to be free of guilt. > ~I have the right not to reel responsible for the suicide death. > ~I have the right to express my feelings and emotions, even if they do > not seem acceptable, as long as they do not interfere with the rights > of others. > ~I have the right to have my questions answered honestly by > authorities and family members. > ~I have the right not to be deceived because others feel they can > spare me further grief. > ~I have the right to maintain a sense of hopefulness. > ~I have a right to peace and dignity. > ~I have the right to positive feelings about the one I lost through > suicide, regardless of the events prior to or at the time of the > death. > ~I have the right to retain my individuality and not be judged because > of the suicide death. > ~I have the right to seek counseling and a support group to enable me > to honestly explore my feelings to further the acceptance process. > ~I have the right to reach acceptance. > ~I have the right to a new beginning. > ~I have the right to be. > It is ok to be angry with her. In fact, it is a normal and natural and > healthy part of grieving. It is also ok to smile and laugh again at > some point. Allow yourself to grieve, but don’t forget to allow > yourself to recover also. > My email box is open, > Aim >Hi Guys, >Just wanted to let you all know that if you don’t see me around for a >couple of days or so, don’t panic! I may lurk or I may not come online >at all or I may come here for support. Just really don’t know right at >the moment!!! >suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I >have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the >summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. >Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all >the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively >short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!! Anyway, the call >came and it is all I can do to see straight or think straight!!! This >is all so very hard to take in and absorb. I was the last one she had >spoken with (talked to her on friday) and new that she was quite >depressed about several things that were going on in her life at the >time. We talked for a short time and then she said she had to go. I >feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I >somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and >it is just so painful!!! >Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great >devestation to so many!!! >Thanks everyone!!! >Donna G > To reply via email, make sure to remove the spam protection from my address! > It should read: aimgrrrl (at) mindspring (dot) com
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I just want everyone to know how kind and caring Donna has been to me these past few weeks. She has written to me here at home and has been so caring and supportive. Her words keep me going. It is not easy being new to anything. You feel awkward. Being on-line is not the very best way to commuicate but her words were put together perfectly for me. She is surely a very kind woman. I can tell she has been that kind of friend to you too. Please forgive me for getting on your last nerve by talking too much. I won’t be here either for awhile. May we all support and love Donna with just an ounce of the way she has loved us all at this time . Love Judy
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Hugs for you and I will say prayers for you and her family that will miss her. You all will be in my thoughts. Micki in No.Ca
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Guys, > Just wanted to let you all know that if you don’t see me around for a > couple of days or so, don’t panic! I may lurk or I may not come online > at all or I may come here for support. Just really don’t know right at > the moment!!! > suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I > have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the > summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. > Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all > the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively > short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!! Anyway, the call > came and it is all I can do to see straight or think straight!!! This > is all so very hard to take in and absorb. I was the last one she had > spoken with (talked to her on friday) and new that she was quite > depressed about several things that were going on in her life at the > time. We talked for a short time and then she said she had to go. I > feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I > somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and > it is just so painful!!! > Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great > devestation to so many!!! > Thanks everyone!!! > Donna G
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Hi Guys, Just wanted to let you all know that if you don’t see me around for a couple of days or so, don’t panic! I may lurk or I may not come online at all or I may come here for support. Just really don’t know right at the moment!!! suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!! Anyway, the call came and it is all I can do to see straight or think straight!!! This is all so very hard to take in and absorb. I was the last one she had spoken with (talked to her on friday) and new that she was quite depressed about several things that were going on in her life at the time. We talked for a short time and then she said she had to go. I feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and it is just so painful!!! Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great devestation to so many!!! Thanks everyone!!! Donna G
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G.) said: >suicide!!! It is so unbelievable. It is like the worst bad dream I >have ever had!!! Her name was Laurie, and I had just met her in the >summer of 1999. I found out back then that I am one of 15 children. >Laurie was the first one I met, and the one that was most like me of all >the ones I’ve met. She and I had become fairly close in a relatively >short period of time. She taught me sooooo much!!!
Oh Donna, I’ll keep you in my thoughts! My mom died on a Memorial Day, so that day’s always been mostly her day. Maybe this will become so for you. >I feel sooooo awful. I think that she was crying out for help, and I >somehow missed how serious that cry for help was!!! Now she is gone and >it is just so painful!!!
Even if we do catch on to the cry for help, there’s not always a lot we can do. Depression on a level that can drive people to suicide is sometimes as insidious as cancer. As much as we want to help, sometimes we just *can’t*. >Please pray for her family and for her partner, as this is a great >devestation to so many!!!
And for you, as part of her family. Know we’re thinking of you. ` Mary MacTavish http://www.prado.com/~iris "I like you guys who want smaller government – you know, just small enough to fit in our bedrooms." Josh to Congressman Skinner, The West Wing
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