Depression Recovery

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Like most other sufferers I have a real problem with sleep.  When in a manic phase I can’t sleep (and have no desire to).  When in a depressive phase I want to sleep (and not wake up) but I can’t get a decent nights quality sleep.  I have tried everything from the legal, i.e. tamazipam to the illegal, i.e. smoking "browns" (heroin).  The only thing that has worked for me is Nitrazipam (Mogadon).  This drug is wonderful – take 3 and get six hours solid sleep, take 4 and get 8 hours.   Most of the time it shuts my brain down and stops the wild thoughts and nightmares. Give it a try, it might just work for you too.

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Dear Big J,                     Hi again.  This sounds very dangerous to me!  Have you thought that maybe it’s the Heroin that is causing your sleep depravation?  I hear that it’s a highly addictive drug, and it would seem to me that if it’s like nicotine,  I have withdrawals, and it’s hard for me to sleep, sometimes, when I chew too much of the gum.     I think you should seek professional help about this.  Your health is really at risk when you don’t get enough sleep, and especially when you are using heroin.  Are you taking the psycho tropic med.’s that are for your bipolar, as well?     Please consult someone, Big J, for your own safety. K – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Like most other sufferers I have a real problem with sleep.  When in a manic > phase I can’t sleep (and have no desire to).  When in a depressive phase I > want to sleep (and not wake up) but I can’t get a decent nights quality > sleep. >  I have tried everything from the legal, i.e. tamazipam to the illegal, i.e. > smoking "browns" (heroin).  The only thing that has worked for me is > Nitrazipam (Mogadon).  This drug is wonderful – take 3 and get six hours > solid sleep, take 4 and get 8 hours.   Most of the time it shuts my brain > down and stops the wild thoughts and nightmares. > Give it a try, it might just work for you too.

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Thanks big J I will.

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MsTjay Just out of curiosity, about how old are you  … ??   This happened to me several years ago, and was told that it was perimenopause …. of course, I – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The strangest thing is happening to me. I am seeing my Doctor this > coming Friday for a follow up and will discuss this with him but… > I was wondering if anyone here has experienced the same thing as I have. > Yesterday afternoon around 4pm I felt drowsy. I went to bed and watched > TV thinking i just needed a bit of rest. By 5:30 I fell asleep and woke > up at 830 this morning. YES 15 hours of sleep. Now it is 5:00 and I am > tired again. I am currently not on any medication though I do have CD (   > I believe in remission right now) I feel a bit shaky  and weak. I cant > describe the sensation. Basically it is a serious fatigue where I feel > my body is shutting down. This happens to me about once a month. I never > thought anything of it, but this time I am concerned. > So far this has  happened maybe 5 times. ( usually around my period-but > it used to be before it started) this time it was after it ended) > My thoughts are anemia.. can anemia do this? I know there are many > kinds. I will sak the doctor to test me for the right kind.. > anyway, thanks for your time.. > — >hi >could be anemia, could be something to do with meds..could simply be >CD >i get tired easily…for me…it helps to have a nap every >afternoon..tired or not..at around the same time(usually around 1-2 >for an hour)..its made a huge difference..even if i dont feel like >resting..i lie down..listen to music or something..almost always fall >asleep..at least its rest..i have more energy..and it doesnt interfere >with sleeping at night either..maybe u are going too long without >rest.. >take care >annie

Peace and Love Maryjo

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > The strangest thing is happening to me. I am seeing my Doctor this > coming Friday for a follow up and will discuss this with him but… > I was wondering if anyone here has experienced the same thing as I have. > Yesterday afternoon around 4pm I felt drowsy. I went to bed and watched > TV thinking i just needed a bit of rest. By 5:30 I fell asleep and woke > up at 830 this morning. YES 15 hours of sleep. Now it is 5:00 and I am > tired again. I am currently not on any medication though I do have CD (   > I believe in remission right now) I feel a bit shaky  and weak. I cant > describe the sensation. Basically it is a serious fatigue where I feel > my body is shutting down. This happens to me about once a month. I never > thought anything of it, but this time I am concerned. > So far this has  happened maybe 5 times. ( usually around my period-but > it used to be before it started) this time it was after it ended) > My thoughts are anemia.. can anemia do this? I know there are many > kinds. I will sak the doctor to test me for the right kind.. > anyway, thanks for your time.. > —

hi could be anemia, could be something to do with meds..could simply be CD i get tired easily…for me…it helps to have a nap every afternoon..tired or not..at around the same time(usually around 1-2 for an hour)..its made a huge difference..even if i dont feel like resting..i lie down..listen to music or something..almost always fall asleep..at least its rest..i have more energy..and it doesnt interfere with sleeping at night either..maybe u are going too long without rest.. take care annie

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Absolutely. I’ve been so tired that by 11am I’ve had to lie down before I fell down. Literally. I’ve even had to go up the stairs on all fours. I’ve nearly fallen down the stairs because I was so tired that my co-ordination was shot. This went on for months until I fixed it by taking sublingual B12 every day. Takes a while to build up though. (It has to be sublingual because CD sufferers often have a malabsorption problem in the part of the small bowel that  deals with B12). HTH.

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> Absolutely. I’ve been so tired that by 11am I’ve had to lie down before I > fell down. Literally. > I’ve even had to go up the stairs on all fours. I’ve nearly fallen down the > stairs because I was so tired that my co-ordination was shot.

I do that all the time.When I get overtired my balance (such as it iis) goes out the window. Violet Tigress — The one & only Violet Tigress The infamous Miss Kitty of Amblefolke… Deny! Deny! Deny! http://home.inreach.com/kismit AIM: Violet Tigress1

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> The strangest thing is happening to me. I am seeing my Doctor this coming Friday for a follow up and will discuss this with him but… > I was wondering if anyone here has experienced the same thing as I have. Yesterday afternoon around 4pm I felt drowsy. I went to bed and watched TV thinking i just needed a bit of rest. By 5:30 I fell asleep and woke up at 830 this morning. YES 15 hours of sleep. Now it is 5:00 and I am tired again. I am currently not on any medication though I do have CD (  I believe in remission right now) I feel a bit shaky  and weak. I cant describe the sensation. Basically it is a serious fatigue where I feel my body is shutting down. This happens to me about once a month. I never thought anything of it, but this time I am concerned. > So far this has  happened maybe 5 times. ( usually around my period-but it used to be before it started) this time it was after it ended) > My thoughts are anemia.. can anemia do this? I know there are many kinds. I will sak the doctor to test me for the right kind.. > anyway, thanks for your time..

I’ve had this happen several times for different reasons.  The first time it was a potassium shortage caused my a medication.  The last time was, as described to me by my doctor, a "medical depression" brought on bt prednisone.  It took me over a year to recover.  I suppose there are alot of reasons you might be feeling fatigue, CBC should tell you more.  I’d be interested in knowing how it all panned out. Dee

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Me too so don’t let him/her!  mgbio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > thanks, mgbio.. I’ll keep you posted. I just hope he doesn’t brush it > off.!!!! >It could be the CD, it could be low B12, it could be low iron,  etc. etc. > etc.  Definitely something to mention t your GI.  Good luck! >:)  mgbio >>The strangest thing is happening to me. I am seeing my Doctor this >>coming Friday for a follow up and will discuss this with him but… >>I was wondering if anyone here has experienced the same thing as I have. >>Yesterday afternoon around 4pm I felt drowsy. I went to bed and watched >>TV thinking i just needed a bit of rest. By 5:30 I fell asleep and woke >>up at 830 this morning. YES 15 hours of sleep. Now it is 5:00 and I am >>tired again. I am currently not on any medication though I do have CD ( >>I believe in remission right now) I feel a bit shaky  and weak. I cant >>describe the sensation. Basically it is a serious fatigue where I feel >>my body is shutting down. This happens to me about once a month. I never >>thought anything of it, but this time I am concerned. >>So far this has  happened maybe 5 times. ( usually around my period-but >>it used to be before it started) this time it was after it ended) >>My thoughts are anemia.. can anemia do this? I know there are many >>kinds. I will sak the doctor to test me for the right kind.. >>anyway, thanks for your time..

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It could be the CD, it could be low B12, it could be low iron,  etc. etc. etc.  Definitely something to mention t your GI.  Good luck!  mgbio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > The strangest thing is happening to me. I am seeing my Doctor this > coming Friday for a follow up and will discuss this with him but… > I was wondering if anyone here has experienced the same thing as I have. > Yesterday afternoon around 4pm I felt drowsy. I went to bed and watched > TV thinking i just needed a bit of rest. By 5:30 I fell asleep and woke > up at 830 this morning. YES 15 hours of sleep. Now it is 5:00 and I am > tired again. I am currently not on any medication though I do have CD (   > I believe in remission right now) I feel a bit shaky  and weak. I cant > describe the sensation. Basically it is a serious fatigue where I feel > my body is shutting down. This happens to me about once a month. I never > thought anything of it, but this time I am concerned. > So far this has  happened maybe 5 times. ( usually around my period-but > it used to be before it started) this time it was after it ended) > My thoughts are anemia.. can anemia do this? I know there are many > kinds. I will sak the doctor to test me for the right kind.. > anyway, thanks for your time..

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thanks, mgbio.. I’ll keep you posted. I just hope he doesn’t brush it off.!!!!

> It could be the CD, it could be low B12, it could be low iron,  etc. etc.

etc.  Definitely something to mention t your GI.  Good luck! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->  mgbio > The strangest thing is happening to me. I am seeing my Doctor this > coming Friday for a follow up and will discuss this with him but… > I was wondering if anyone here has experienced the same thing as I have. > Yesterday afternoon around 4pm I felt drowsy. I went to bed and watched > TV thinking i just needed a bit of rest. By 5:30 I fell asleep and woke > up at 830 this morning. YES 15 hours of sleep. Now it is 5:00 and I am > tired again. I am currently not on any medication though I do have CD ( > I believe in remission right now) I feel a bit shaky  and weak. I cant > describe the sensation. Basically it is a serious fatigue where I feel > my body is shutting down. This happens to me about once a month. I never > thought anything of it, but this time I am concerned. > So far this has  happened maybe 5 times. ( usually around my period-but > it used to be before it started) this time it was after it ended) > My thoughts are anemia.. can anemia do this? I know there are many > kinds. I will sak the doctor to test me for the right kind.. > anyway, thanks for your time..

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i had a 15 hour sleep the other day and felt great, although i overslept and missed lectures so it wasnt all good! Robert

Hi Carole, I’m having the same kind of sleep problems as you!  I only sleep for about 1 to 1 and 1/2 hrs then am up for an hour or two.  I’m only averaging about 3 to 4 hrs sleep a night.  I too am blaming menopause as it only got this bad after I decided to quit taking a hormone last April.  How I continue to go, go, go all day is a mystery, lol. Hugs,  Linda

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I would KILL for 15 straight hours of sleep, LOL.   I think it;s the > menopause, but I sleep in approx 2 hr segments…fall asleep quickly, > sleep about 2 hrs, up for about  half hour, sleep 2, up a half, all > night long.  If I fell asleep at 5pm, I’d be wide awake by 1am and not > able to go back to sleep at all….I never get into that deep > restorative sleep we all need. > Ah, but this too shall pass… >I was wondering if anyone here has experienced the same thing as I have. = >Yesterday afternoon around 4pm I felt drowsy. I went to bed and watched = >TV thinking i just needed a bit of rest. By 5:30 I fell asleep and woke = >up at 830 this morning. YES 15 hours of sleep.

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Hi Carole, I’m having the same kind of sleep problems as you!  I only sleep for about 1 to 1 and 1/2 hrs then am up for an hour or two.  I’m only averaging about 3 to 4 hrs sleep a night.  I too am blaming menopause as it only got this bad after I decided to quit taking a hormone last April.  How I continue to go, go, go all day is a mystery, lol.   Hugs,  Linda – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I would KILL for 15 straight hours of sleep, LOL.   I think it;s the > menopause, but I sleep in approx 2 hr segments…fall asleep quickly, > sleep about 2 hrs, up for about  half hour, sleep 2, up a half, all > night long.  If I fell asleep at 5pm, I’d be wide awake by 1am and not > able to go back to sleep at all….I never get into that deep > restorative sleep we all need.   > Ah, but this too shall pass… >I was wondering if anyone here has experienced the same thing as I have. = >Yesterday afternoon around 4pm I felt drowsy. I went to bed and watched = >TV thinking i just needed a bit of rest. By 5:30 I fell asleep and woke = >up at 830 this morning. YES 15 hours of sleep.

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I would KILL for 15 straight hours of sleep, LOL.   I think it;s the menopause, but I sleep in approx 2 hr segments…fall asleep quickly, sleep about 2 hrs, up for about  half hour, sleep 2, up a half, all night long.  If I fell asleep at 5pm, I’d be wide awake by 1am and not able to go back to sleep at all….I never get into that deep restorative sleep we all need.   Ah, but this too shall pass… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I was wondering if anyone here has experienced the same thing as I have. = >Yesterday afternoon around 4pm I felt drowsy. I went to bed and watched = >TV thinking i just needed a bit of rest. By 5:30 I fell asleep and woke = >up at 830 this morning. YES 15 hours of sleep.

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The strangest thing is happening to me. I am seeing my Doctor this coming Friday for a follow up and will discuss this with him but… I was wondering if anyone here has experienced the same thing as I have. Yesterday afternoon around 4pm I felt drowsy. I went to bed and watched TV thinking i just needed a bit of rest. By 5:30 I fell asleep and woke up at 830 this morning. YES 15 hours of sleep. Now it is 5:00 and I am tired again. I am currently not on any medication though I do have CD (  I believe in remission right now) I feel a bit shaky  and weak. I cant describe the sensation. Basically it is a serious fatigue where I feel my body is shutting down. This happens to me about once a month. I never thought anything of it, but this time I am concerned. So far this has  happened maybe 5 times. ( usually around my period-but it used to be before it started) this time it was after it ended) My thoughts are anemia.. can anemia do this? I know there are many kinds. I will sak the doctor to test me for the right kind.. anyway, thanks for your time..

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